After a brief interlude of personal reflection in Grandfossil’s tales to his grandchildren, a different sort of last will and testament at this what I suppose some people might view as a nut house, I made yet another visit to a nuthouse owned and operated by a lady in Australia.
Westerners Have An Absolutely Psychotic View Of Airstrikes
CAITLIN JOHNSTONE
JAN 8, 2024
https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/westerners-have-an-absolutely-psychotic
Excerpts:
Canadian online outlet The Breach has published a letter by CBC’s senior manager of journalistic standards Nancy Waugh which highlights perfectly the bizarre psychological relationship that westerners have with bombs and airstrikes in foreign countries.
In response to multiple complaints from a retired Humber College professor about the wildly biased language that Canada’s state broadcaster has been using to describe Israel’s war on Gaza, Waugh acknowledged that the CBC routinely uses words like “murderous,” “vicious,” “brutal,” “massacre,” and “slaughter” to refer to the October 7 Hamas attack while using far less emotionally charged words like “intensive,” “unrelenting,” and “punishing” to describe Israel’s actions in Gaza over the last three months.
Waugh defended this extreme discrepancy by saying that Israel’s attacks in Gaza differ from the Hamas attack on Israelis in that Israel’s killings are done “remotely”.
“Different words are used because although both result in death and injury, the events they describe are very different,” Waugh wrote. “The raid saw Hamas gunmen stream through the border fence and attack Israelis directly with firearms, knives and explosives. Gunmen chased down festival goers, assaulted kibbutzniks then shot them, fought hand to hand, and threw grenades. The attack was brutal, often vicious, and certainly murderous.”
“Bombs dropped from thousands of feet and artillery shells lofted into Gaza from kilometers away result in death and destruction on a massive scale, but it is carried out remotely,” Waugh continued. “The deadly results are unseen by those who caused them and the source unseen by those [who] suffer and die.”
I’ve written a number of essays trying to point at the baseless and irrational way westerners view military explosives as a far more civilized and humane way of killing human beings than bullets or blades, but I’ve never written anything that sums it up as clearly as this frank admission by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation’s senior manager of journalistic standards.
Military explosives rip human bodies apart. They burn people alive. They trap them under rubble where they die excruciatingly slowly in one of the most horrifying ways imaginable. They leave people without limbs. They dismember and disfigure children for life. Many of the most agonizing deaths in human history have been caused by bombs.
There are thousands of Gazans who have yet to be counted among the dead because their bodies are still buried under the rubble of fallen buildings. Many of them would not have died instantly. Some are still alive, waiting for days in a state terror and searing pain for a rescue that will never come.
Sloan Bashinsky
Writes Sloan’s Newsletter
Hamas and Israel are equally brutal and vicious, the difference between them is, Israel has bigger and better weapons. Maybe Hamas will think twice before doing another Oct 7? As for impersonal warfare, you keep beating up on the Ukraine president, whose country’s cities are being blasted by Russian rockets. Why aren’t you beating up on Vladimir Putin? It looks to me, Caitlin, that Israel's counterattack, which Hamas hoped would happen, to get the very result you abhor, has driven you loco; and it looks to me, the more you beat up on Israel and minimize Hamas’s role in this, the more loco you get.
Arseniy Shchukin
Sounds like you swallow propaganda pretty nicely . Big Bad Putin destroying Ukraine. Not Big Bad USA pushing NATO on Russia doorstep, when they promised they wouldn’t , provoking the conflict . Let’s not even talk about the negotiations in April , when Boris Johnson and our administration got shook at the prospect of peace, and told Zelenskyy to watch out 😅 like ur beloved Biden would say. Common man
Sloan Bashinsky
Whatever the history, Ukraine and Russia, Irael and Hamas, I’m looking at the slaughter, and if you are defending Putin for blasting Ukraine cities with rockets, many made in Iran, then I think you are as loco as I think Caitlin is.
Arseniy Shchukin
🤣 whatever bro , suit yourself if you wanna close your eyes. Maybe helps you sleep better at night . I for 1, am sick of swallowing mainstream propaganda based on feeling rather than objective observation. If your blaming Putin for war crimes and defending USA and Israel for defending freedom, I think you need a good look In the mirror , and a good re-learning of the truth. If that’s what you really are searching for . Good luck Sloan. Btw I used to be Pro Israeli a long time ago when I was blind, deaf, and dumb . And of course pro “ freedom “. Thank to independent media for finally waking my ass up .
Sloan Bashinsky
I’m not defending any of them: Israeli, Hamas, Biden, U.S. Congress, Putin. If they are slaughtering civilians, they should be lined up and shot. If you defend them with mumbo jumbo, then that makes you loco in my lingo, or, if you prefer, it makes you Evil.
Dennis Merwood
The truth about Putin is not welcome my man.
PUTIN= BAD
GENOCIDE JOE = GOOD
Sloan Bashinsky
Read my lips. Biden should be lined up and shot for helping Israel do what it’s doing in Gaza. Hamas’s leader and his soldiers should be lined up and shot. Israel’s leaders and IDF should be lined up and shot. Putin should be lined up and shot. I sure hope none of his rockets hit a Soviet Union nuclear reactor in Ukraine.
DomeLord
Sick of killing but yet you demand more killing? Who shall kill the killers of killers? How are we to rise above this barbarian culture where killing is the answer to life's problems? Is the last one standing the best killer of all?
Sloan Bashinsky
The leaders of the killers should be allowed to remain alive, so they can keep killing?
Arseniy Shchukin
Putin's rockets won’t hit any nuclear reactors, if any do it’ll be from Ukraines side fully backed by loco, Mumbo jumbo USA support. Any unbiased real following of the events would teach you that . Let’s not mention the similarities of Donetsk and Gaza for the past 8 years and how they have been shelled indiscriminately, solely based on hate and racial discrimination, AKA genocide. Seems like u have part of the truth, basically an inverted RFK, as he will defend Putin but never condemn Israel , but you are the opposite, even though u know claim, out of nowhere, to condemn Israel and Biden . Just like RFK, switching sides rapidly when convenient. Either that or you are just confused. No mumbo jumbo here, unless you gotta clean the wools from your eyes.
Sloan Bashinsky
Putin’s rockets are blasting Ukraine cities, but that's ok by you, apparently, but it ain’t okay for Israel’s bombs to be blasting Gaza cities. Loco.
Starry Gordon
They think they have to do it. But I don't think it's correct to say that "Westerners" are unconscious of the horrific results of the bombings. On the contrary, I don't know anyone who is indifferent to what's going on. We just haven't figured out a way to stop it. Meanwhile, people like Putin (or any other of the bigdeals) are playing the game of Realpolitik as it is played.
hierochloe
"Maybe Hamas will think twice before doing another Oct 7?" this stinks of apologia
Starry Gordon
Well, it's stupid, because it's a proven fact that violence begets violence. Yes, Hamas will think twice -- about improving their performance next time around.
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Sloan Bashinsky
Hamas got the exact result they wanted, Oct 7 was bait, Hamas would have been really disappointed if Israel had used restraint, because Hamas could not beat Israel militarily, so it provoked Israel to behave kinda like Putin, Iran, Hitler, Putin.
hierochloe
"Hamas got the exact result they wanted" that wasn't the answer implied behind your question, but ok. You're still doing the 'but do you condemn hamas' bit, which is becoming a meme tbh (check out Dershowitz's weird-ass deflection over Epstein stuff). Keep in mind there's no Hamas in the West Bank, just dead Palestinians.
Sloan Bashinsky
What Hamas wanted is what Israel did in Gaza, and that’s so drop dead obvious that nobody here today, or any day prior, can see it. Or, they don’t want to see it. Or, they see it, but they won’t admit they see it, because then they have to see what the guy running Hamas, Yahya Sinwar, really is up to, which should be no surprise, since Hamas's initial charter called for the destruction of Israel, and Hamas’s amended charter, using different words, called for the same result. Unable to beat Israel militarily, Sinwar set out to defeat Israel in the court of public opinion, and it was a truly brilliant strategy, which Caitlin and her many admires prove every time she posts something new bashing Israel and giving Hamas a free pass.
Fran
I certainly don't approve of what Hamas did, but spare me by trying to equate what Hamas did and a genocide which Israel is implementing with thousands and thousands and thousands now dead, and it goes on and on and on, and maybe until they are all dead. Remember Israel even needed to lie about the total number of fatalities, lie about the babies killed, lie about the woman raped and had to up the number that Hamas killed.
Sloan Bashinsky
If you grow out of diapers, you might see Hamas meant to provoke Israel to do the very thing it did in Gaza, to turn the entire world against Israel, except for about half of America, which hopes Israel kills every Muslim in the Middle East.
Fran
Tit for tat, look you old fart you're probably in diapers, yes blame Hamas for making Israel implement a genocide, but don't forget they were Netanyahu's favorites and he empowered them with lots of money through the years. Look it up. You are an Israeli apologist and that is all you are. No the whole world is not against Israel just think how America is pouring weapons into her genocidal killing spree, but should the world turn against her, I can understand. You act like Israel had no other choice, but she did. However, she used what Hamas did to do what she always wanted to do. After all didn't Gallant say they were just animals? Didn't Israel have them in an outdoor concentration camp. Does that mentality sound familiar?
hierochloe
"used what Hamas did to do what she always wanted to do" that should be bold underlined
Sloan Bashinsky
All true, and Hamas grew up. If you take either side, you go blind,
Fran
I am going to take a side, and I am not going to support a genocide. Lets not forget that Israel was forewarned of an impending attack by Hamas. A year or more before the assault Israel had the detailed plans of the attack, but dismissed them, and claimed they were too complex for Hamas to carry out. They were warned by those who monitored Gaza's borders that suspicious behavior was going on. Ignored. Egypt warned them on an impending attack, 3 days before, but it was also ignored. The fence they claimed would protect the people from such an assault was flimsy, not strong like they said it was. I don't even think the monitoring system was working at the time. Hamas hit 20 towns before any response. Everyone complained that the response time for those who could protect them was very slow, so maybe it was Netanyahu and his right wing party that wanted all this to happen so they could implement a genocide. The final solution. Who knows. Only 10 years before they were building, and building Jewish settlements all over the West Bank which continues to this day, but more aggressively, and they continue to steal Palestinian land, and I hear they are killing people there, and they are hungry. Oh, perhaps you should go back and read about the NAKBA, or perhaps you would like to view it on Youtube. It will allow you to see how willing they were to kill and displace so many. I have 20/20 vision.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7FML0wzJ6A
Sloan Bashinsky
You need better vision than that to see that the guy running Hamas has Israel, Caitlin and you doing his bidding.
Fran
You're the one who wears glasses, not me. I can see.
Sloan Bashinsky
I once had a wife, who was a licensed clinical social worker, who told new acquaintances that I was the mail man, I delivered the message; she didn’t know how I did it, but I could see around corners and through buildings. I told the new acquaintances that I took no credit for it, one day, like a light switch was thrown, I saw everything differently. What had been hidden in plain view, was no longer hidden. It came to pass that she didn’t care for some things I saw that were important in her life, and that was the end of our relationship.
The guy running Hamas spent a long time in an Israel prison. He learned Hebrew. He studied Israel and came to know it better than it knew itself. He figured out the best way to beat Israel, and the bait was the Oct. 7 attack, which punched every last button in Israel’s president and high government and the IDF, provoking them to do what they have done in Gaza. The guy leading Hamas could care less about all the Gazans IDF killed. He views them all as martyrs, for his cause, and they went straight to paradise. That’s how that segment of Islam thinks. They are as convinced of it as the American religious right as sure it is the only representative of God and Jesus in America.
If you think I am defending Israel, you are blind, deaf and dumb. Israel’s leaders and IDF are working for the Devil, literally. As are the guy running Hamas and his military. As are Joe Biden and the American Congress and the American people, who support what Israel did in Gaza.
Whether or not you, Caitlin, Chris Hedges, or Mickey Mouse, can take that in is irrelevant. What’s going on between Israel and Hamas and other Islamic factions is a religious war, which has been going on for a very long time, and it is rooted in their scriptures, dating back to Abraham. That war will not end for so long as the state of Israel exists in Palestine. What’s going on now is just another phase of that very old war.
Fran
I've been keeping up with what has been going on in Gaza and the West Bank and this article in excellent in providing the reason for Oct 7. It provides a perspective which is just about no where.
Spark That Lit the Fire: Untold Story of Oct 7 Attacks
Israel is reeling under collective shock because of its tendency to pay close attention to analyses of Israel an'
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/01/09/spark-that-lit-the-fire-untold-story-of-oct-7-attacks/?eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=74ec95aa-3c4e-4582-890a-6e1c2f011956
Sloan Bashinsky
After reading that article, I still say the Oct 7 raid was hoped by Sinwar to provoke what it provoked for the purpose or hope of the entire world turning against Israel. I hope Sinwar is pleased with the result. If not, he is an idiot? He thought Israel would simply play tit for tat, after his jihadists killed unarmed men, women and children, and raped women, and defiled the raped women’s bodies, and took men, women and children hostages, even foreign hostages, including Americans, back to Gaza? Just to get Israel to release its Palestinian prisoners, whose numbers were drawfed by the number of Gazans IDF already has killed, and destroyed their homes and cities and infrastructure and economy, and turned the Gaza people into nomads. That some really lousy arithmetic. If I lived in Gaza, I would be really pissed off at Sinwar, who I doubt gives a shit what the people of Gaza think of him, now that the world, except for about half of America, has turned against Israel. Yet, facing those facts, Caitlin and many people I have engaged at this forum, give Sinwar and Hamas a pass, or even admire him. Looks plain loco to me.
Fran
Well, not turning against Israel for no reason, but to make the world aware of their plight and the horrors imposed on them by Israel, like stealing their land, killing them, brutalizing them, providing them with no sense of a future, not to mention the poverty, and unemployment, and the outdoor concentration camp Palestinians were forced to reside in knowing they lived under the threat that Israel wanted them gone. Oh, and the West bank, and stealing their land, using it for Israeli settlements. By the way there is no proof women were raped and babies killed. Kind of like America, Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, and Gaddafi is carrying on a genocide in Lybia, etc, etc The death rate came down by hundreds when they got things straight. So in your response no balancing act, no mention of 23 thousand dead Palestinains, and the destruction of Gaza, or the hospitals blown up. What about that little 9 year old whose whole family was killed in this genocide. She had her leg blown off. Still she had hope, wanted to be a doctor, take care of people, that is until Israel dropped a bomb on the hospital that was caring for her, and blew her head off. Yep, you mention all you claim Hamas did, but no mention what Israel continues to do, and how many they have killed in their response to the Hamas attack, well that's what Sinwar was pissed off at.
Sloan Bashinsky
You keep dodging the obvious, which is your privilege, or you simply are unable to see it. Sinwar got the precise response from Israel he hoped to get. it was a brilliant strategy that Caitlin, Chris Hedges, and nobody who keeps bashing Israel can see. I’m not defending Israel. I’m simply explaining what the Oct 7 attack was really about.
Jim Jackson
Your attempt to excuse Israeli terrorism by pointing at Russia is Zionist propaganda. Some facts: 3,000 ethnic Russian civilians were killed in 2014-15 by Ukrainian artillery shelling of the Donbas. 9,500 Ukrainians and ethnic Russians were killed in 2022-23 by Russian artillery and missiles. In only three months, Israel has killed more than 30,000 Palestinians. Israeli savagery is clearly the greater. Russia is reclaiming ethnic Russian territories. Israel is annexing Palestinian land that it did not manage to seize during the Zionist colonization of 1948,
Sloan Bashinsky
Caitlin keeps beating up on Ukraine’s leader, so she is who uses Zionist propaganda? Russia is destroying Ukraine cities and infrastructure that are no where close to the Russian border. The entire area around Israel is Palestine, and Hamas is burrowed into the Gaza part. I think Israel should cease to exist, and Islam should control Palestine, if it allows people of other beliefs to live there peacefully, which I have read is how it was before Israel was created. Israel and America will never agree to that, so here we are, in yet another phase of a very old religious war between descendants of Abraham.
Mike Fish
All who kill civilians are not the same.
A drunk, or dumbass, distracted, cell phone, driver kill civilians.
While certainly worthy of scorn, they’re certainly not in the same league as
Nazi Israel.
Intent has a roll in assessing criminal responsibility.
And, Israel has articulated its intent quite clearly.
But, the invention of Israel was a crime in the first place.
Sloan Bashinsky
And the intention of Hamas on Oct 7 was not a crime? Are you 100 percent loco?
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